Support for Orange Pi Zero 3 #785

tusc · 2023-10-04T02:23:18Z

tusc
Oct 4, 2023

Has anyone tried this SBC lately? I just purchased it off Amazon for a reasonable price ($28 USD for a 2GB model). I initially tried Teslausb on a Radxa Zero but WiFi was horrendously slow. The Orange PI has better WiFi performance and offers similar power consumption, about .9 watts at idle.

I installed the Ubuntu server image from Orange with the 6.1.31 kernel:

orangepi@teslausb:~$ uname -a
Linux teslausb 6.1.31-sun50iw9 #1.0.0 SMP Mon Jul  3 13:52:39 CST 2023 aarch64 aarch64 aarch64 GNU/Linux
orangepi@teslausb:~$ cat /etc/issue
Orange Pi 1.0.0 Jammy \l

I went ahead and ran the Teslausb install.sh and finished with rc.local. The 64GB sdcard was resized and installation finished without issue. It appears that OTG is supported. I have the device attached to my Macbook via one of the usb-c ports and can see the TeslaCam and TeslaTrackMode subdirectories on the CAM external drive.

Should this device be qualified given its efficient power usage and decent wifi speeds?

marcone · 2023-10-04T16:09:05Z

marcone
Oct 4, 2023
Maintainer

I initially tried Teslausb on a Radxa Zero but WiFi was horrendously slow

What speed are we talking about here, and did you get one of the Radxa Zero variants that supports 5 GHz wifi?
Did you have an antenna attached to it?

Should this device be qualified given its efficient power usage and decent wifi speeds?

Not sure what you mean by "qualified" here.

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tusc · 2023-10-04T16:31:14Z

tusc
Oct 4, 2023
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I initially tried Teslausb on a Radxa Zero but WiFi was horrendously slow

What speed are we talking about here, and did you get one of the Radxa Zero variants that supports 5 GHz wifi? Did you have an antenna attached to it?

It's the Radxa Zero w/ 2GB, WiFI 5ghz with support for an external antenna. I ordered it from allnet along with the regular and short PCB WiFi antenna. Right now it's being tested with the regular length antenna. Using the latest build for Armbian. The best I can get for network speed test from teslausb is 39Mb/sec. I even attempted to attach a USB Gigabit ethernet card from a USB-C dongle and could barely hit 300Mb/sec from that. Not sure what could be slowing it down.

here's the output from iwconfig:

root@teslausb:~# iwconfig
lo        no wireless extensions.

wlan0     IEEE 802.11  ESSID:"XXX"
          Mode:Managed  Frequency:5.5 GHz  Access Point: XX:XX:XX:XX:XX:XX
          Bit Rate=325 Mb/s   Tx-Power=31 dBm
          Retry short limit:7   RTS thr:off   Fragment thr:off
          Encryption key:off
          Power Management:off
          Link Quality=70/70  Signal level=-38 dBm
          Rx invalid nwid:0  Rx invalid crypt:0  Rx invalid frag:0
          Tx excessive retries:0  Invalid misc:0   Missed beacon:0

iperf3 also shows simliar speed test results as the teslsausb network test tool:

root@teslausb:~# iperf3 -s
-----------------------------------------------------------
Server listening on 5201 (test #1)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Accepted connection from 192.168.1.33, port 51531
[  5] local 192.168.1.135 port 5201 connected to 192.168.1.33 port 51532
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  5]   0.00-1.00   sec  4.58 MBytes  38.4 Mbits/sec
[  5]   1.00-2.00   sec  4.97 MBytes  41.7 Mbits/sec
[  5]   2.00-3.00   sec  4.86 MBytes  40.8 Mbits/sec
[  5]   3.00-4.00   sec  4.95 MBytes  41.5 Mbits/sec
[  5]   4.00-5.00   sec  4.72 MBytes  39.6 Mbits/sec
[  5]   5.00-6.00   sec  4.97 MBytes  41.7 Mbits/sec
[  5]   6.00-7.00   sec  4.83 MBytes  40.5 Mbits/sec
[  5]   7.00-8.00   sec  5.12 MBytes  43.0 Mbits/sec
[  5]   8.00-9.00   sec  4.76 MBytes  39.9 Mbits/sec
[  5]   9.00-10.00  sec  4.67 MBytes  39.2 Mbits/sec
[  5]  10.00-10.03  sec   205 KBytes  61.4 Mbits/sec
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
[ ID] Interval           Transfer     Bitrate
[  5]   0.00-10.03  sec  48.6 MBytes  40.7 Mbits/sec                  receiver

Should this device be qualified given its efficient power usage and decent wifi speeds?

Not sure what you mean by "qualified" here.

I should have said, is the OP Zero 3 recommended? Are others using it? I didn't see it listed on the hardware page. Given the affordable price of the OP Zero 3, I'm just surprised no one has brought it up.

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marcone Oct 4, 2023
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The best I can get for network speed test from teslausb is 39Mb/sec. I even attempted to attach a USB Gigabit ethernet card from a USB-C dongle and could barely hit 300Mb/sec from that.

39 Mb/sec isn't terrible I think. I get 56 Mb/s on the 5 GHz band under optimal conditions, and much, much worse on 2.4 GHz (as low as 5 Mbit/s)
For ethernet my guess would be you ran into CPU and/or USB bottlenecks.

is the OP Zero 3 recommended? Are others using it? I didn't see it listed on the hardware page. Given the affordable price of the OP Zero 3, I'm just surprised no one has brought it up

Perhaps because it's relatively new (released just 3 months ago).

tusc · 2023-10-04T19:27:56Z

tusc
Oct 4, 2023
Author

The best I can get for network speed test from teslausb is 39Mb/sec. I even attempted to attach a USB Gigabit ethernet card from a USB-C dongle and could barely hit 300Mb/sec from that.

39 Mb/sec isn't terrible I think. I get 56 Mb/s on the 5 GHz band under optimal conditions, and much, much worse on 2.4 GHz (as low as 5 Mbit/s) For ethernet my guess would be you ran into CPU and/or USB bottlenecks.

Here's the wifi test for the OP 3:

When testing the ethernet port I can max out at 900Mb/sec.

is the OP Zero 3 recommended? Are others using it? I didn't see it listed on the hardware page. Given the affordable price of the OP Zero 3, I'm just surprised no one has brought it up

Perhaps because it's relatively new (released just 3 months ago).

Understood.

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marcone Oct 6, 2023
Maintainer

The Orange Pi Zero 3 seems to underperform in terms of USB drive emulation:

The sequential write numbers are the important ones here, and the Orange Pi Zero 3 is quite a bit slower than Raspberry Pi Zero (see #239 (comment) for Raspberry Pi numbers). Not sure if that matters in practice though.

tusc Oct 7, 2023
Author

I saw similar results from my Macbook connected to the OPI Zero 3 via USB-C. According to the Tesla manual, they require at least 4MB/sec throughput. I think the advantage of this SBC is the increased WiFi throughput (IMHO).

marcone · 2023-10-06T02:05:53Z

marcone
Oct 6, 2023
Maintainer

I installed the Ubuntu server image from Orange with the 6.1.31 kernel:

I tried an Orange Pi Zero 3 1 GB, but the ubuntu image linked from here doesn't seem to be working. Not sure if that's because the device is broken or because the image for the 1GB version is broken.
I attached serial debug and get this on power-on:

U-Boot SPL 2021.07-orangepi (Jul 03 2023 - 13:51:47 +0800)
DRAM: 1024 MiB
Trying to boot from MMC1
NOTICE:  BL31: v2.9(debug):463655cc
NOTICE:  BL31: Built : 16:14:59, Jun  5 2023
NOTICE:  BL31: Detected Allwinner H616 SoC (1823)
NOTICE:  BL31: Found U-Boot DTB at 0x4a0827f8, model: OrangePi Zero3
INFO:    ARM GICv2 driver initialized
INFO:    Configuring SPC Controller
INFO:    PMIC: Probing AXP305 on RSB
ERROR:   RSB: set run-time address: 0x10003
INFO:    Could not init RSB: -65539
INFO:    BL31: Platform setup done
INFO:    BL31: Initializing runtime services
INFO:    BL31: cortex_a53: CPU workaround for 855873 was applied
INFO:    BL31: cortex_a53: CPU workaround for 1530924 was applied
INFO:    PSCI: Suspend is unavailable
INFO:    BL31: Preparing for EL3 exit to normal world
INFO:    Entry point address = 0x4a000000
INFO:    SPSR = 0x3c9
INFO:    Changed devicetree.


U-Boot 2021.07-orangepi (Jul 03 2023 - 13:51:47 +0800) Allwinner Technology

CPU:   Allwinner H616 (SUN50I)
Model: OrangePi Zero3
I2C:   ready
DRAM:  1 GiB
MMC:   mmc@4020000: 0
Loading Environment from FAT... Unable to use mmc 0:1... In:    serial@5000000
Out:   serial@5000000
Err:   serial@5000000
Net:   No ethernet found.
starting USB...
No working controllers found
Autoboot in 1 seconds, press <Space> to stop
switch to partitions #0, OK
mmc0 is current device
Scanning mmc 0:1...
Found U-Boot script /boot/boot.scr
3636 bytes read in 4 ms (887.7 KiB/s)
## Executing script at 4fc00000
Wrong image format for "source" command
SCRIPT FAILED: continuing...
libfdt fdt_check_header(): FDT_ERR_BADMAGIC
Scanning disk mmc@4020000.blk...
Found 2 disks
No EFI system partition
BootOrder not defined
EFI boot manager: Cannot load any image
starting USB...
No working controllers found
USB is stopped. Please issue 'usb start' first.
starting USB...
No working controllers found
No ethernet found.
missing environment variable: pxeuuid
missing environment variable: bootfile
Retrieving file: pxelinux.cfg/00000000
No ethernet found.
missing environment variable: bootfile
Retrieving file: pxelinux.cfg/0000000
No ethernet found.
missing environment variable: bootfile
Retrieving file: pxelinux.cfg/000000
No ethernet found.
missing environment variable: bootfile
Retrieving file: pxelinux.cfg/00000
No ethernet found.
missing environment variable: bootfile
Retrieving file: pxelinux.cfg/0000
No ethernet found.
missing environment variable: bootfile
Retrieving file: pxelinux.cfg/000
No ethernet found.
missing environment variable: bootfile
Retrieving file: pxelinux.cfg/00
No ethernet found.
missing environment variable: bootfile
Retrieving file: pxelinux.cfg/0
No ethernet found.
missing environment variable: bootfile
Retrieving file: pxelinux.cfg/default-arm-sunxi-sunxi
No ethernet found.
missing environment variable: bootfile
Retrieving file: pxelinux.cfg/default-arm-sunxi
No ethernet found.
missing environment variable: bootfile
Retrieving file: pxelinux.cfg/default-arm
No ethernet found.
missing environment variable: bootfile
Retrieving file: pxelinux.cfg/default
No ethernet found.
Config file not found
starting USB...
No working controllers found
No ethernet found.
No ethernet found.
=>

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marcone Oct 6, 2023
Maintainer

The debian server image appears to work though.

marcone · 2023-10-06T18:29:00Z

marcone
Oct 6, 2023
Maintainer

I tried an Orange Pi Zero 3 1 GB, but the ubuntu image linked from here doesn't seem to be working. Not sure if that's because the device is broken or because the image for the 1GB version is broken.

Apparently this was because the Windows app I was using to unzip the archive produced a corrupt file. After switching to the command line 7z, the resulting .img was OK and booted fine.

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tusc · 2023-10-06T19:41:40Z

tusc
Oct 6, 2023
Author

Are you seeing similar performance numbers to what I saw?

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marcone Oct 6, 2023
Maintainer

For networking? Not really. It seems to prefer connecting to 2.4 GHz wifi, and I'm seeing about 25 Mbit/s with that. When I force it onto 5 GHz wifi I'm seeing up to120 MBit/s if I hold the antenna just right, but with the antenna just lying flat on the desk next to the board it's around 45 Mbit/s. Also seeing quite a bit of packet loss in that case.

tusc · 2024-02-02T20:52:18Z

tusc
Feb 2, 2024
Author

Fyi,

now that Armbian has preliminary support for the Orange PI Zero 3, I went ahead and tried to load the latest version of Teslausb. Fortunately it ran without issue. This is the current wifi speed test:

Armbian download images at the bottom of this page: https://www.armbian.com/orange-pi-zero-3/

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marcone · 2024-02-06T02:08:32Z

marcone
Feb 6, 2024
Maintainer

now that Armbian has preliminary support for the Orange PI Zero 3

Where do you see this? I only see that it is "community supported" on https://www.armbian.com/orange-pi-zero-3/ and there are no installation images linked from that page as far as I can see.

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tusc · 2024-02-06T02:29:14Z

tusc
Feb 6, 2024
Author

There used to be rolling release images at that link as pointed out by the post below. Not sure why they were taken down. I downloaded one last week.

https://forum.armbian.com/topic/29202-orange-pi-zero-3/?do=findComment&comment=180779

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tusc · 2024-02-06T16:25:45Z

tusc
Feb 6, 2024
Author

Looks like the CI job failed to update the web site but you can grab an image from here: https://github.com/armbian/os/releases/download/24.2.0-trunk.519/Armbian_24.2.0-trunk.519_Orangepizero3_trixie_current_6.6.15_minimal.img.xz

Mentioned here: https://forum.armbian.com/topic/29202-orange-pi-zero-3/?do=findComment&comment=180921

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tusc · 2024-02-08T20:23:22Z

tusc
Feb 8, 2024
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Download links are back on the page: https://www.armbian.com/orange-pi-zero-3/

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