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Add fallible closure to idioms #250

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This is a short idiom I think I've seen several times.

Using a fallible closure inside an infallible function to allow the use of the ? operator.

tone was a bit condescending

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@jRimbault Do you still want to add anything or is it ready to review?

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I think it would be good to elaborate a bit more and give a better example, but yes I'm ready to review and change things if needed ?

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This was prompted by someone on reddit asking how to write the first two functions, to which I replied with the 3rd implementation. I think I've seen that idiom here and there in Rust code.

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@simonsan simonsan changed the title [WIP] add fallible closure Add fallible closure to idioms Mar 30, 2021
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- [Privacy For Extensibility](./idioms/priv-extend.md)
- [Easy doc initialization](./idioms/rustdoc-init.md)
- [Temporary mutability](./idioms/temporary-mutability.md)
- [Fallible closure](./idioms/fallible-closure.md)
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We might find a better headline for the summary to let this idiom be found more easily.

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I agree, this often comes up when people want to avoid "arrow code" with let guards or "match hell", maybe something around that ?

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The general question is also when you should do it and when not. I mean it's obviously pretty bad for error handling and I would consider it kind of an anti-pattern somehow in this regards, as also mentioned in the # Disadvantages. Also it's quite unclear (for me as a reader) why you would use try/? to bubble up errors, but then don't handle them. Maybe to just sketch out/hack something fastly? I think in this regards the text could elaborate a bit more, imho.

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## Motivation

You may sometimes want to use the [`?`] operator inside an infallible function,
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sometimes, here it would be good to give examples when that might be the case and when you would find this idiom in the wild.

## Motivation

You may sometimes want to use the [`?`] operator inside an infallible function,
in those cases a closure inside your function could be the simple solution.
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why is this a good and simple solution in these cases, an explanation for it would be good

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Is this even an idiom? I thought it is just a syntax?

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This allows using the terser syntax permitted by the [`?`] operator inside an
infallible context.
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Bit repetitive, it's good for this, because it's good like. maybe a bit more elaboration. maybe the text from my last comments would fit better in here then


## Disadvantages

This is hiding failure states from the consumer of the API.
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why is that bad and when do you really want to avoid it? mentioning some cases would be good and probably also state, that if this is overused it could be considered an anti-pattern

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I'll sleep on on your advice (it's 11pm in my timezone). I think I should first find some good examples (of good* and bad use cases). I've only had one legit use case. It's often came up when trying to help someone else though. IMO this should definitely not be in a function in a public API. It's really about syntax convenience when the author thinks they have a good default case.

fn file_stem(path: &Path) -> &str {
// this closure is fallible, so it can make use of `?`
// fn() -> Option<&str>
let inner = || Some(path.file_stem()?.to_str()?);
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I believe this example is not making full use of ?, it could even have TryInto IIRC.

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It could be written :

let inner =  || path.file_stem()?.to_str();

but that wouldn't show much

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I do think that is better. I don't know why we need to have another layer for that.

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Any updates on this? 🚀

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